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3/12/2006 9:18:12 AM nVidia Drivers |
I'm having constant crashes due to nv4disp.dll and nv4_mini.sys. I have an
AOpen 6600GT video card. The crashes mostly happens when I'm playing World
of Warcraft. I've searched everywhere to find a solution, with no results.
I've updated my BIOS to the most recent version, and I'm using the most
recent release of the nVidia drivers.
Below is two of my most recent crash debug reports. Hopefully one of you
can help me. Thanks!
Chris
Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0003.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini031106-04.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available
Symbol search path is: C:\WINDOWS\Symbols
Executable search path is:
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows Server 2003 Kernel Version 3790 (Service Pack 1) MP (2 procs) Free
x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`01000000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`011ad0c0
Debug session time: Sat Mar 11 19:37:34.656 2006 (GMT-7)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:07:31.484
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
..................................................................................................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
......
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* Bugcheck Analysis
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
BugCheck 50, {fffffae06073848f, 0, fffff80001059bed, 5}
Could not read faulting driver name
Unable to load image nv4_mini.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nv4_mini.sys
Probably caused by : nv4_mini.sys (
nv4_mini!dacSetDigitalDisplayInterlaced+5df )
Followup: MachineOwner
---------
1: kd> !analyze -v
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* Bugcheck Analysis
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PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by
try-except,
it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or
it
is pointing at freed memory.
Arguments:
Arg1: fffffae06073848f, memory referenced.
Arg2: 0000000000000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
Arg3: fffff80001059bed, If non-zero, the instruction address which
referenced the bad memory
address.
Arg4: 0000000000000005, (reserved)
Debugging Details:
------------------
Could not read faulting driver name
READ_ADDRESS: fffffae06073848f
FAULTING_IP:
nt!MiSegmentDelete+3b2
fffff800`01059bed 488b880f85c879 mov rcx,[rax+0x79c8850f]
MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 5
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 4
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: COMMON_SYSTEM_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x50
CURRENT_IRQL: 0
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff800010a3f31 to fffff800010501d0
STACK_TEXT:
fffffadf`df11ae48 fffff800`010a3f31 : 00000000`00000050 fffffae0`6073848f
00000000`00000000 fffffadf`df11af20 : nt!CcSetPrivateWriteFile+0xce
fffffadf`df11ae50 00000000`00000050 : fffffae0`6073848f 00000000`00000000
fffffadf`df11af20 00000000`00000005 :
nt!ExpSmallPagedPoolLookasideLists+0x4b1
fffffadf`df11ae58 fffffae0`6073848f : 00000000`00000000 fffffadf`df11af20
00000000`00000005 fffffadf`df11af50 : 0x50
fffffadf`df11ae60 00000000`00000000 : fffffadf`df11af20 00000000`00000005
fffffadf`df11af50 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffae0`6073848f
fffffadf`df11ae68 fffffadf`df11af20 : 00000000`00000005 fffffadf`df11af50
00000000`00000000 fffff800`01054a52 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11ae70 00000000`00000005 : fffffadf`df11af50 00000000`00000000
fffff800`01054a52 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffadf`df11af20
fffffadf`df11ae78 fffffadf`df11af50 : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`01054a52
00000000`00000000 00001f80`00000100 : 0x5
fffffadf`df11ae80 00000000`00000000 : fffff800`01054a52 00000000`00000000
00001f80`00000100 fffff6fb`7eb81818 : 0xfffffadf`df11af50
fffffadf`df11ae88 fffff800`01054a52 : 00000000`00000000 00001f80`00000100
fffff6fb`7eb81818 fffff6fb`7dbf5c08 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11ae90 00000000`00000000 : 00001f80`00000100 fffff6fb`7eb81818
fffff6fb`7dbf5c08 00000000`00000000 : nt!KeWaitForMultipleObjects+0xfb
fffffadf`df11ae98 00001f80`00000100 : fffff6fb`7eb81818 fffff6fb`7dbf5c08
00000000`00000000 fffff800`01071c13 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11aea0 fffff6fb`7eb81818 : fffff6fb`7dbf5c08 00000000`00000000
fffff800`01071c13 fffff6fb`7dbedfa8 : 0x1f80`00000100
fffffadf`df11aea8 fffff6fb`7dbf5c08 : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`01071c13
fffff6fb`7dbedfa8 fffff800`010512a7 : 0xfffff6fb`7eb81818
fffffadf`df11aeb0 00000000`00000000 : fffff800`01071c13 fffff6fb`7dbedfa8
fffff800`010512a7 fffffadf`e6babc20 : 0xfffff6fb`7dbf5c08
fffffadf`df11aeb8 fffff800`01071c13 : fffff6fb`7dbedfa8 fffff800`010512a7
fffffadf`e6babc20 fffffadf`e6aafbd0 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11aec0 fffff6fb`7dbedfa8 : fffff800`010512a7 fffffadf`e6babc20
fffffadf`e6aafbd0 fffffadf`e6babc00 :
nt!IopInvokeSecondaryDumpDataCallbacks+0x10f
fffffadf`df11aec8 fffff800`010512a7 : fffffadf`e6babc20 fffffadf`e6aafbd0
fffffadf`e6babc00 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffff6fb`7dbedfa8
fffffadf`df11aed0 fffffadf`e6babc20 : fffffadf`e6aafbd0 fffffadf`e6babc00
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!FsRtlAcquireFileForModWriteEx+0x185
fffffadf`df11aed8 fffffadf`e6aafbd0 : fffffadf`e6babc00 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffadf`e6babc20
fffffadf`df11aee0 fffffadf`e6babc00 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 fffffadf`e76dc910 : 0xfffffadf`e6aafbd0
fffffadf`df11aee8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
fffffadf`e76dc910 fffffadf`df11afa0 : 0xfffffadf`e6babc00
fffffadf`df11aef0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 fffffadf`e76dc910
fffffadf`df11afa0 fffffadf`e788b010 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11aef8 00000000`00000000 : fffffadf`e76dc910 fffffadf`df11afa0
fffffadf`e788b010 fffff800`0104ee19 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11af00 fffffadf`e76dc910 : fffffadf`df11afa0 fffffadf`e788b010
fffff800`0104ee19 5bfccd4f`84000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11af08 fffffadf`df11afa0 : fffffadf`e788b010 fffff800`0104ee19
5bfccd4f`84000000 5bfccd4f`848700bd : 0xfffffadf`e76dc910
fffffadf`df11af10 fffffadf`e788b010 : fffff800`0104ee19 5bfccd4f`84000000
5bfccd4f`848700bd fffffadf`e6babc00 : 0xfffffadf`df11afa0
fffffadf`df11af18 fffff800`0104ee19 : 5bfccd4f`84000000 5bfccd4f`848700bd
fffffadf`e6babc00 fffffadf`e32ed4ef : 0xfffffadf`e788b010
fffffadf`df11af20 5bfccd4f`84000000 : 5bfccd4f`848700bd fffffadf`e6babc00
fffffadf`e32ed4ef 00000000`00000000 : nt!NtFreeVirtualMemory+0x326
fffffadf`df11af28 5bfccd4f`848700bd : fffffadf`e6babc00 fffffadf`e32ed4ef
00000000`00000000 00001f80`0100d5a4 : 0x5bfccd4f`84000000
fffffadf`df11af30 fffffadf`e6babc00 : fffffadf`e32ed4ef 00000000`00000000
00001f80`0100d5a4 fffffadf`e6aaff80 : 0x5bfccd4f`848700bd
fffffadf`df11af38 fffffadf`e32ed4ef : 00000000`00000000 00001f80`0100d5a4
fffffadf`e6aaff80 fffffadf`e788b010 : 0xfffffadf`e6babc00
fffffadf`df11af40 00000000`00000000 : 00001f80`0100d5a4 fffffadf`e6aaff80
fffffadf`e788b010 fffffadf`e788b030 :
nv4_mini!dacSetDigitalDisplayInterlaced+0x5df
fffffadf`df11af48 00001f80`0100d5a4 : fffffadf`e6aaff80 fffffadf`e788b010
fffffadf`e788b030 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11af50 fffffadf`e6aaff80 : fffffadf`e788b010 fffffadf`e788b030
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x1f80`0100d5a4
fffffadf`df11af58 fffffadf`e788b010 : fffffadf`e788b030 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 5bfce4a1`025e00b8 : 0xfffffadf`e6aaff80
fffffadf`df11af60 fffffadf`e788b030 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
5bfce4a1`025e00b8 fffffadf`e6babc20 : 0xfffffadf`e788b010
fffffadf`df11af68 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 5bfce4a1`025e00b8
fffffadf`e6babc20 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffadf`e788b030
fffffadf`df11af70 00000000`00000000 : 5bfce4a1`025e00b8 fffffadf`e6babc20
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11af78 5bfce4a1`025e00b8 : fffffadf`e6babc20 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11af80 fffffadf`e6babc20 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x5bfce4a1`025e00b8
fffffadf`df11af88 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffadf`e6babc20
fffffadf`df11af90 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11af98 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afa0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afa8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afb0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afb8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afc0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afc8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afd0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 fffffae0`6073848f : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afd8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
fffffae0`6073848f 00000000`00000001 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afe0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 fffffae0`6073848f
00000000`00000001 fffffadf`e75b4010 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11afe8 00000000`00000000 : fffffae0`6073848f 00000000`00000001
fffffadf`e75b4010 fffffadf`e75ea770 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11aff0 fffffae0`6073848f : 00000000`00000001 fffffadf`e75b4010
fffffadf`e75ea770 00000000`00000001 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11aff8 00000000`00000001 : fffffadf`e75b4010 fffffadf`e75ea770
00000000`00000001 00000000`7070534b : 0xfffffae0`6073848f
fffffadf`df11b000 fffffadf`e75b4010 : fffffadf`e75ea770 00000000`00000001
00000000`7070534b 00000000`00000000 : 0x1
fffffadf`df11b008 fffffadf`e75ea770 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`7070534b
00000000`00000000 fffff800`01183008 : 0xfffffadf`e75b4010
fffffadf`df11b010 00000000`00000001 : 00000000`7070534b 00000000`00000000
fffff800`01183008 fffffadf`e7250810 : 0xfffffadf`e75ea770
fffffadf`df11b018 00000000`7070534b : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`01183008
fffffadf`e7250810 fffffadf`e7250810 : 0x1
fffffadf`df11b020 00000000`00000000 : fffff800`01183008 fffffadf`e7250810
fffffadf`e7250810 fffffadf`e7250800 : 0x7070534b
fffffadf`df11b028 fffff800`01183008 : fffffadf`e7250810 fffffadf`e7250810
fffffadf`e7250800 fffff800`011a7160 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11b030 fffffadf`e7250810 : fffffadf`e7250810 fffffadf`e7250800
fffff800`011a7160 00000000`00000000 : nt!IoReportResourceUsage+0x1ab
fffffadf`df11b038 fffffadf`e7250810 : fffffadf`e7250800 fffff800`011a7160
00000000`00000000 fffffadf`e337781c : 0xfffffadf`e7250810
fffffadf`df11b040 fffffadf`e7250800 : fffff800`011a7160 00000000`00000000
fffffadf`e337781c fffffadf`e75ea770 : 0xfffffadf`e7250810
fffffadf`df11b048 fffff800`011a7160 : 00000000`00000000 fffffadf`e337781c
fffffadf`e75ea770 fffffadf`e32cacdf : 0xfffffadf`e7250800
fffffadf`df11b050 00000000`00000000 : fffffadf`e337781c fffffadf`e75ea770
fffffadf`e32cacdf fffffadf`e707b300 : nt!NTFastDOSIO+0x271
fffffadf`df11b058 fffffadf`e337781c : fffffadf`e75ea770 fffffadf`e32cacdf
fffffadf`e707b300 fffffadf`df11b250 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11b060 fffffadf`e75ea770 : fffffadf`e32cacdf fffffadf`e707b300
fffffadf`df11b250 00000000`00000000 : nv4_mini!gpuHalDestroy_NV40+0x15c
fffffadf`df11b068 fffffadf`e32cacdf : fffffadf`e707b300 fffffadf`df11b250
00000000`00000000 fffff800`01059bed : 0xfffffadf`e75ea770
fffffadf`df11b070 fffffadf`e707b300 : fffffadf`df11b250 00000000`00000000
fffff800`01059bed 00000000`00000010 :
nv4_mini!dacGetDisplayEncoderFromDisplay_Generic+0xef
fffffadf`df11b078 fffffadf`df11b250 : 00000000`00000000 fffff800`01059bed
00000000`00000010 00000000`00010293 : 0xfffffadf`e707b300
fffffadf`df11b080 00000000`00000000 : fffff800`01059bed 00000000`00000010
00000000`00010293 fffffadf`df11b0b0 : 0xfffffadf`df11b250
fffffadf`df11b088 fffff800`01059bed : 00000000`00000010 00000000`00010293
fffffadf`df11b0b0 000003ad`00000018 : 0x0
fffffadf`df11b090 00000000`00000010 : 00000000`00010293 fffffadf`df11b0b0
000003ad`00000018 fffffadf`00000000 : nt!MiSegmentDelete+0x3b2
fffffadf`df11b098 00000000`00010293 : fffffadf`df11b0b0 000003ad`00000018
fffffadf`00000000 fffffadf`e6aafbd0 : 0x10
STACK_COMMAND: kb
FOLLOWUP_IP:
nv4_mini!dacSetDigitalDisplayInterlaced+5df
fffffadf`e32ed4ef ?? ???
FAULTING_SOURCE_CODE:
SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1f
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
SYMBOL_NAME: nv4_mini!dacSetDigitalDisplayInterlaced+5df
MODULE_NAME: nv4_mini
IMAGE_NAME: nv4_mini.sys
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 439ace49
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x50_nv4_mini!dacSetDigitalDisplayInterlaced+5df
BUCKET_ID: X64_0x50_nv4_mini!dacSetDigitalDisplayInterlaced+5df
Followup: MachineOwner
---------
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Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0003.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini031106-03.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available
Symbol search path is: C:\WINDOWS\Symbols
Executable search path is:
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
Windows Server 2003 Kernel Version 3790 (Service Pack 1) MP (2 procs) Free
x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`01000000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`011ad0c0
Debug session time: Sat Mar 11 13:00:40.125 2006 (GMT-7)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:31:13.953
Unable to load image ntoskrnl.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntoskrnl.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
..................................................................................................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
.......
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*
*
* Bugcheck Analysis
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Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
BugCheck 3B, {c0000005, fffff97fff655f57, fffffadfdfe0fa70, 0}
Unable to load image nv4_disp.dll, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for nv4_disp.dll
Unable to load image win32k.sys, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for win32k.sys
Probably caused by : nv4_disp.dll (
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+5eb7 )
Followup: MachineOwner
---------
1: kd> !analyze -v
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SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION (3b)
An exception happened while executing a system service routine.
Arguments:
Arg1: 00000000c0000005, Exception code that caused the bugcheck
Arg2: fffff97fff655f57, Address of the exception record for the exception
that caused the bugcheck
Arg3: fffffadfdfe0fa70, Address of the context record for the exception that
caused the bugcheck
Arg4: 0000000000000000, zero.
Debugging Details:
------------------
EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at "0x%08lx"
referenced memory at "0x%08lx". The memory could not be "%s".
FAULTING_IP:
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+5eb7
fffff97f`ff655f57 488b5008 mov rdx,[rax+0x8]
CONTEXT: fffffadfdfe0fa70 -- (.cxr fffffadfdfe0fa70)
rax=00fffa8002902ec0 rbx=fffffa8001bc2e00 rcx=fffffa8001bce310
rdx=fffffa8001bcda90 rsi=0000000000000000 rdi=fffffa8001bc9240
rip=fffff97fff655f57 rsp=fffffadfdfe10280 rbp=0000000000000010
r8=fffffa80020a2a90 r9=0000000000000003 r10=0000000000000032
r11=0000000000000003 r12=0000000000000050 r13=0000000000000001
r14=0000000000000000 r15=0000000000000001
iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=0010 ss=0018 ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b
efl=00010206
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+0x5eb7:
fffff97f`ff655f57 488b5008 mov rdx,[rax+0x8]
ds:002b:00fffa80`02902ec8=????????????????
Resetting default scope
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 3
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x3B
CURRENT_IRQL: 0
LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffffadfe74a92c0 to fffff97fff655f57
STACK_TEXT:
fffffadf`dfe10280 fffffadf`e74a92c0 : fffffa80`020286e8 00000000`00000000
fffff97f`ff68aa95 fffffa80`01bc2e00 :
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+0x5eb7
fffffadf`dfe10288 fffffa80`020286e8 : 00000000`00000000 fffff97f`ff68aa95
fffffa80`01bc2e00 fffffa80`01a42200 : 0xfffffadf`e74a92c0
fffffadf`dfe10290 00000000`00000000 : fffff97f`ff68aa95 fffffa80`01bc2e00
fffffa80`01a42200 fffffa80`01bc2e00 : 0xfffffa80`020286e8
fffffadf`dfe10298 fffff97f`ff68aa95 : fffffa80`01bc2e00 fffffa80`01a42200
fffffa80`01bc2e00 fffff97f`ff656a58 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe102a0 fffffa80`01bc2e00 : fffffa80`01a42200 fffffa80`01bc2e00
fffff97f`ff656a58 fffffadf`e78f6060 : nv4_disp!nvDrawStr+0x1d5
fffffadf`dfe102a8 fffffa80`01a42200 : fffffa80`01bc2e00 fffff97f`ff656a58
fffffadf`e78f6060 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffa80`01bc2e00
fffffadf`dfe102b0 fffffa80`01bc2e00 : fffff97f`ff656a58 fffffadf`e78f6060
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000040 : 0xfffffa80`01a42200
fffffadf`dfe102b8 fffff97f`ff656a58 : fffffadf`e78f6060 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000040 fffffa80`02028580 : 0xfffffa80`01bc2e00
fffffadf`dfe102c0 fffffadf`e78f6060 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000040
fffffa80`02028580 fffffa80`01bbeec0 :
nv4_disp!CPixelShader14FP::compile+0x338
fffffadf`dfe102c8 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000040 fffffa80`02028580
fffffa80`01bbeec0 fffffa80`01a42200 : 0xfffffadf`e78f6060
fffffadf`dfe102d0 00000000`00000040 : fffffa80`02028580 fffffa80`01bbeec0
fffffa80`01a42200 00000000`00000001 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe102d8 fffffa80`02028580 : fffffa80`01bbeec0 fffffa80`01a42200
00000000`00000001 fffff97f`ff655918 : 0x40
fffffadf`dfe102e0 fffffa80`01bbeec0 : fffffa80`01a42200 00000000`00000001
fffff97f`ff655918 fffffa80`019c6c58 : 0xfffffa80`02028580
fffffadf`dfe102e8 fffffa80`01a42200 : 00000000`00000001 fffff97f`ff655918
fffffa80`019c6c58 fffffa80`01a44000 : 0xfffffa80`01bbeec0
fffffadf`dfe102f0 00000000`00000001 : fffff97f`ff655918 fffffa80`019c6c58
fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`01a668c0 : 0xfffffa80`01a42200
fffffadf`dfe102f8 fffff97f`ff655918 : fffffa80`019c6c58 fffffa80`01a44000
fffffa80`01a668c0 fffff97f`ff656b6c : 0x1
fffffadf`dfe10300 fffffa80`019c6c58 : fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`01a668c0
fffff97f`ff656b6c 00000000`00000010 :
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+0x5878
fffffadf`dfe10308 fffffa80`01a44000 : fffffa80`01a668c0 fffff97f`ff656b6c
00000000`00000010 00000000`00000003 : 0xfffffa80`019c6c58
fffffadf`dfe10310 fffffa80`01a668c0 : fffff97f`ff656b6c 00000000`00000010
00000000`00000003 fffffa80`01bc2e00 : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe10318 fffff97f`ff656b6c : 00000000`00000010 00000000`00000003
fffffa80`01bc2e00 fffff97f`ff5c5c6d : 0xfffffa80`01a668c0
fffffadf`dfe10320 00000000`00000010 : 00000000`00000003 fffffa80`01bc2e00
fffff97f`ff5c5c6d fffffa80`01a668c0 :
nv4_disp!CPixelShader14FP::compile+0x44c
fffffadf`dfe10328 00000000`00000003 : fffffa80`01bc2e00 fffff97f`ff5c5c6d
fffffa80`01a668c0 fffffa80`01a44000 : 0x10
fffffadf`dfe10330 fffffa80`01bc2e00 : fffff97f`ff5c5c6d fffffa80`01a668c0
fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`01a668c0 : 0x3
fffffadf`dfe10338 fffff97f`ff5c5c6d : fffffa80`01a668c0 fffffa80`01a44000
fffffa80`01a668c0 fffff97f`ff655936 : 0xfffffa80`01bc2e00
fffffadf`dfe10340 fffffa80`01a668c0 : fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`01a668c0
fffff97f`ff655936 00000000`00000030 :
nv4_disp!NVShaderDecoder::nvRenderDoMotionComp+0x8d
fffffadf`dfe10348 fffffa80`01a44000 : fffffa80`01a668c0 fffff97f`ff655936
00000000`00000030 fffff97f`ff54bfb6 : 0xfffffa80`01a668c0
fffffadf`dfe10350 fffffa80`01a668c0 : fffff97f`ff655936 00000000`00000030
fffff97f`ff54bfb6 00000000`00000010 : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe10358 fffff97f`ff655936 : 00000000`00000030 fffff97f`ff54bfb6
00000000`00000010 00000000`00010257 : 0xfffffa80`01a668c0
fffffadf`dfe10360 00000000`00000030 : fffff97f`ff54bfb6 00000000`00000010
00000000`00010257 fffffadf`dfe10398 :
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+0x5896
fffffadf`dfe10368 fffff97f`ff54bfb6 : 00000000`00000010 00000000`00010257
fffffadf`dfe10398 fffffa80`01a44000 : 0x30
fffffadf`dfe10370 00000000`00000010 : 00000000`00010257 fffffadf`dfe10398
fffffa80`01a44000 00000000`01600009 :
nv4_disp!DXVA_DeinterlaceBaseDeviceClass::DeinterlaceBltEx+0x116
fffffadf`dfe10378 00000000`00010257 : fffffadf`dfe10398 fffffa80`01a44000
00000000`01600009 00000000`00000000 : 0x10
fffffadf`dfe10380 fffffadf`dfe10398 : fffffa80`01a44000 00000000`01600009
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : 0x10257
fffffadf`dfe10388 fffffa80`01a44000 : 00000000`01600009 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 fffffa80`01a44000 : 0xfffffadf`dfe10398
fffffadf`dfe10390 00000000`01600009 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`01a44000 : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe10398 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`01a44000
fffffa80`01a44000 00000000`00000000 : 0x1600009
fffffadf`dfe103a0 00000000`00000000 : fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`01a44000
00000000`00000000 fffffa80`01a42200 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe103a8 fffffa80`01a44000 : fffffa80`01a44000 00000000`00000000
fffffa80`01a42200 fffff97f`ff61b0c2 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe103b0 fffffa80`01a44000 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`01a42200
fffff97f`ff61b0c2 fffffa80`0067b800 : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe103b8 00000000`00000000 : fffffa80`01a42200 fffff97f`ff61b0c2
fffffa80`0067b800 fffff97f`ff61c4dc : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe103c0 fffffa80`01a42200 : fffff97f`ff61b0c2 fffffa80`0067b800
fffff97f`ff61c4dc 00000000`01600009 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe103c8 fffff97f`ff61b0c2 : fffffa80`0067b800 fffff97f`ff61c4dc
00000000`01600009 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffa80`01a42200
fffffadf`dfe103d0 fffffa80`0067b800 : fffff97f`ff61c4dc 00000000`01600009
00000000`00000000 fffffadf`dfe10580 : nv4_disp!nvDxTriLockSurfaces+0x92
fffffadf`dfe103d8 fffff97f`ff61c4dc : 00000000`01600009 00000000`00000000
fffffadf`dfe10580 fffffa80`0067b800 : 0xfffffa80`0067b800
fffffadf`dfe103e0 00000000`01600009 : 00000000`00000000 fffffadf`dfe10580
fffffa80`0067b800 fffffa80`01a44000 :
nv4_disp!nvCelsiusDispatchIndexedPrimitiveInline+0x10c
fffffadf`dfe103e8 00000000`00000000 : fffffadf`dfe10580 fffffa80`0067b800
fffffa80`01a44000 00000000`00000000 : 0x1600009
fffffadf`dfe103f0 fffffadf`dfe10580 : fffffa80`0067b800 fffffa80`01a44000
00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0067b800 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe103f8 fffffa80`0067b800 : fffffa80`01a44000 00000000`00000000
fffffa80`0067b800 fffff97f`ff61c2f7 : 0xfffffadf`dfe10580
fffffadf`dfe10400 fffffa80`01a44000 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0067b800
fffff97f`ff61c2f7 fffffa80`0155f010 : 0xfffffa80`0067b800
fffffadf`dfe10408 00000000`00000000 : fffffa80`0067b800 fffff97f`ff61c2f7
fffffa80`0155f010 fffffa80`01a44000 : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe10410 fffffa80`0067b800 : fffff97f`ff61c2f7 fffffa80`0155f010
fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`03f595b0 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe10418 fffff97f`ff61c2f7 : fffffa80`0155f010 fffffa80`01a44000
fffffa80`03f595b0 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffa80`0067b800
fffffadf`dfe10420 fffffa80`0155f010 : fffffa80`01a44000 fffffa80`03f595b0
00000000`00000000 fffffa80`019b6340 :
nv4_disp!nvCelsiusDispatchNonIndexedPrimitiveInline+0xa7
fffffadf`dfe10428 fffffa80`01a44000 : fffffa80`03f595b0 00000000`00000000
fffffa80`019b6340 fffff97f`ff5c3d0b : 0xfffffa80`0155f010
fffffadf`dfe10430 fffffa80`03f595b0 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`019b6340
fffff97f`ff5c3d0b fffffa80`028162f0 : 0xfffffa80`01a44000
fffffadf`dfe10438 00000000`00000000 : fffffa80`019b6340 fffff97f`ff5c3d0b
fffffa80`028162f0 fffffa80`00613a00 : 0xfffffa80`03f595b0
fffffadf`dfe10440 fffffa80`019b6340 : fffff97f`ff5c3d0b fffffa80`028162f0
fffffa80`00613a00 fffffa80`00613a50 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe10448 fffff97f`ff5c3d0b : fffffa80`028162f0 fffffa80`00613a00
fffffa80`00613a50 00000000`00000004 : 0xfffffa80`019b6340
fffffadf`dfe10450 fffffa80`028162f0 : fffffa80`00613a00 fffffa80`00613a50
00000000`00000004 00000000`00000001 :
nv4_disp!NV31DXVADecoder::nvMG31EndFrame+0x39b
fffffadf`dfe10458 fffffa80`00613a00 : fffffa80`00613a50 00000000`00000004
00000000`00000001 00000000`70646447 : 0xfffffa80`028162f0
fffffadf`dfe10460 fffffa80`00613a50 : 00000000`00000004 00000000`00000001
00000000`70646447 00000000`00000001 : 0xfffffa80`00613a00
fffffadf`dfe10468 00000000`00000004 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`70646447
00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffa80`00613a50
fffffadf`dfe10470 00000000`00000001 : 00000000`70646447 00000000`00000001
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000010 : 0x4
fffffadf`dfe10478 00000000`70646447 : 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000010 00000000`00000001 : 0x1
fffffadf`dfe10480 00000000`00000001 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000010
00000000`00000001 fffffa80`0155f010 : 0x70646447
fffffadf`dfe10488 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000010 00000000`00000001
fffffa80`0155f010 fffffa80`03f57560 : 0x1
fffffadf`dfe10490 00000000`00000010 : 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`0155f010
fffffa80`03f57560 fffffa80`03f595b0 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe10498 00000000`00000001 : fffffa80`0155f010 fffffa80`03f57560
fffffa80`03f595b0 00000000`00000000 : 0x10
fffffadf`dfe104a0 fffffa80`0155f010 : fffffa80`03f57560 fffffa80`03f595b0
00000000`00000000 fffffadf`dfe10580 : 0x1
fffffadf`dfe104a8 fffffa80`03f57560 : fffffa80`03f595b0 00000000`00000000
fffffadf`dfe10580 fffff97f`ff588842 : 0xfffffa80`0155f010
fffffadf`dfe104b0 fffffa80`03f595b0 : 00000000`00000000 fffffadf`dfe10580
fffff97f`ff588842 fffffa80`0068b100 : 0xfffffa80`03f57560
fffffadf`dfe104b8 00000000`00000000 : fffffadf`dfe10580 fffff97f`ff588842
fffffa80`0068b100 fffffa80`00000005 : 0xfffffa80`03f595b0
fffffadf`dfe104c0 fffffadf`dfe10580 : fffff97f`ff588842 fffffa80`0068b100
fffffa80`00000005 ffffffff`800018e4 : 0x0
fffffadf`dfe104c8 fffff97f`ff588842 : fffffa80`0068b100 fffffa80`00000005
ffffffff`800018e4 fffffadf`dfe10c70 : 0xfffffadf`dfe10580
fffffadf`dfe104d0 fffffa80`0068b100 : fffffa80`00000005 ffffffff`800018e4
fffffadf`dfe10c70 fffffadf`dfe10580 :
nv4_disp!CPBAbstract<0,0,0,65024,11,5,2016,5,6,31,0,5,2,5,0>::addToTable+0xf2
STACK_COMMAND: .bugcheck ; kb
FOLLOWUP_IP:
nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+5eb7
fffff97f`ff655f57 488b5008 mov rdx,[rax+0x8]
FAULTING_SOURCE_CODE:
SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0
FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner
SYMBOL_NAME: nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+5eb7
MODULE_NAME: nv4_disp
IMAGE_NAME: nv4_disp.dll
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 439acc9d
FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x3B_nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+5eb7
BUCKET_ID: X64_0x3B_nv4_disp!CPixelShader3XFP::compile+5eb7
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3/12/2006 12:13:50 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
I'm playing a song with Media Player right now and no problems. I'm using a
visualization too; what do you do to cause a problem in WMP?
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3/12/2006 12:39:11 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
The system boots fine, I've had no problems running Windows on or other
applications. The system is not set up for dual booting, and as I said, the
crashes happen when I'm playing World of Warcraft. When the crashes happen,
I get a BSOD and the computer restarts.
Hope you can help, thanks!
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3/12/2006 2:54:27 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
My 6600GT card is AGP as well. I looked for a BIOS update for my video card
but there isn't a newer BIOS. I'll see if I can't monitor my CPU and GPU
temperatures and see if the problem could be temperature related. Thanks
for the heads up.
Chris
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3/12/2006 3:26:06 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Well, I downloaded SpeedFan and my normal temperatures running Folding@Home,
was about 67°. This is obviously way too high. I'm not sure what I can do
about CPU temperature, but my case design isn't the best. I'm thinking of
maybe taking the power supply out of the case since it blocks the CPU fan
and see if that helps. I'll let you know.
Chris
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3/12/2006 6:41:47 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
quantumburnz wrote:
I'm having similar problem/error:
***nv4_disp.dll
date stamp 43a71b3d .... but this happens only when I open/play media
player.
looking forward for a solution.
using version 82.12 of nvidia driver on Geforce FX5200/256
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3/12/2006 8:13:07 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Whenever I open WMP or open a file (audio/video) using WMP a crash
happens with similar errors like yours, otherwise my PC runs smoothly. I
can play my music with Winamp, realplayer without a hitch.
quantumburnz wrote:
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3/12/2006 8:17:08 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
It would seem that, among other things, something cannot locate 'ntoskrnl'.
Are you having any boot problems?
Is your system set up for dual-boot'ing?
I only ask, since bug reports have a habit of not telling me much.
Can you give us a description of how the 'crash' happens - is it freezing
the game or the whole machine, or will it simply power down quietly?
Tony. . .
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3/12/2006 10:35:04 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Well, it's just that I'm on my second 6600 card and I am having problems
with the CPU temperature from one game (GTR). When this happens the machine
just powers down - no BSOD or anything. The perversity of it all is that it
is not the graphics card that runs hot, just the CPU.
The first card was a 'PixelView' 128MB 6600 GT. It was overclocked and it
was spewing a jet of of extremely hot air into the cage. With two large fans
everything else was running smooth and cool, though.
Last week, I had enough of it and got an AOpen 256MB 6600 (no GT) it
apparently is not overclocked and the GPU is not at all as hot as the first.
Playing away in GTR is fine, but if I take a break and walk away, it blacks
out completely again and the CPU is very hot.
I started believing the 6600's had a BIOS problem (or whatever) since
apparently it let's the CPU take a lot of stress, the your message came
along and now I don't know any more. I would like to know more about what
everybody out there is experiencing.
By the way - I'm on AGP still.
Tony. . .
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3/12/2006 10:49:30 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Spend the money on a good case, one that's designed to cool well, and
quietly. When I moved from a cheap no-name case to the Antec P180, I dropped
almost 20c on my CPU. (Might have dropped more, but that drop got me down to
28c, so there wasn't much room to go. )
Second, look at one of the quiet, high performance CPU coolers. They can
make a big difference. Finally, a quality PS that does a good (and quiet)
job of providing _clean_ power while moving the air will also make a big
difference. I'm partial to Seasonic, and they've got long enough cables that
the P-180 doesn't have a problem.
Just one other note, Tony - a big 120 mm fan, moving slowly, will move more
air than an 80mm moving much faster. And is a LOT quieter.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
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3/12/2006 10:51:52 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Take IMMEDIATE action to reduce your temperature. You're not doing that CPU
any good at all. Buy a _good_ case that's designed to move air well, put a
good CPU cooler on - the ones that come with the CPU are OK, but they're
noisy and not all that efficient. And a good PS that will help move the air
while providing clean, power-factor corrected, power can help as well.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
quantumburnz wrote:
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3/13/2006 1:01:04 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Yes, 67 deg. is just short of having it power down, like what I am
experiencing - my PSU has it's fan in the bottom, (120mm), would that help?
Good idea, perhaps, getting rid of it, the noice level alone would warrant
putting mine on the balcony. My case fans are really descrete, almost
subtle.
Happy Contemplating! Tony. . .
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Folding@Home,
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3/13/2006 5:34:58 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Have you tried running with the case open and even adding a house fan to
blow air into the case when it is open? You may have another problem, such
as the cpu fan or improper installation or even bad readings (have you tried
another temperature reporting program).
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3/13/2006 6:13:36 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
I seriously doubt under these circumstances that changing your case is going
to help. No case is going to improve on an open case and a house fan into
the case. Also from what I can see those temperatures are relatively normal
for a P4 under load.
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3/13/2006 6:19:53 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
I decided to take the power supply out of my case last night, I set it on
top of the case, to see if the CPU temperature improved. My CPU is now
59-60° running Folding@Home. I'll probably need to invest in a new case as
you said, but I'd prefer not to spend a fortune on a case. Any
recommendations to good cases? I like Antec but they tend to be
expensive...
Thanks for the help.
Chris
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3/13/2006 6:21:51 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
I'd recommend Antec power supplies Tony. This is the only power supply I've
seen with a 3 year warranty, and these are the strongest, most reliable
power supplies I've used. I've gone through a lot of "no name" and generic
power supplies and I'm still on my first Antec.
Chris
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3/13/2006 6:50:38 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
I've actually had my the side off my case the whole time since I put it
together. I did try blowing air into the case using a house fan yesterday
and the temperatures lowered some, but not more than 5°C. I haven't tried
another temperature program, but I could and see if I get anything
different. I would tend to say the CPU fan is on correctly, but in my
opinion, these P4 fans are tough to get on.
Chris
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3/13/2006 8:03:40 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
The Seasonics are better than PCP&C, IMHO - and I used the PCP&C for years.
The Seasonics are both quieter and move air better, IMHO. Those 120mm fans.
As for cases - if Antec isn't available there, there are certainly others.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
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3/13/2006 8:05:09 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Avoid passive cooling choices on a high end PC that's having cooling issues.
That's the last thing you want. They're great if you've got everything else
sorted, and are running a CPU that won't overheat. But they just can't move
enough air.
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Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
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3/13/2006 8:07:27 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
This is one case where you're going to need to spend some $$. Antec are
cheaper than the alternatives that do the job, IME. And don't go for just
any old Antec, either - some of their cheaper ones are no better at cooling
than any other inexpensive case.
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Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
quantumburnz wrote:
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3/13/2006 8:09:15 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Actually, open case can be worse than closed - the air isn't directed to the
right location.
That being said, the OP seems to need a new and properly seated/gooped CPU
cooler as well.
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Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
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3/13/2006 8:16:17 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Antec's own PSs are OK, some are even pretty good. Given how that P-180,
works, though, I'd be loath to go with a passive PS. I think it would be a
bad choice.
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Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
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3/13/2006 9:12:09 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:19:53 -0700, "quantumburnz"
<quantumburnz@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've had very good luck with the Antec Super Lanboy
http://www.xpcgear.com/an.html
I've seen it for as low as $55 on sale. The pros are that it is
aluminum so very light weight and it is very easy to work on. It
provides 2 120mm fans (front in/back out), easy access side panel,
toolless access, cushioned slide in caddys for hard drives, etc.
Cons: Some find the case flimsy and the quality not up to typical
Antec standards but I've not found this outweighs the features you get
for the low price.
I've got an AMD athlon 64 3000+ (not overclocked), with a Antec Neo
Power 480, 200Gz Western Digital Caviar HD, DVD/CD RW, and ab XFX
Nvidia 6600GT installed and the CPU idles at 37C and never goes over
40 -41C under load.
HTH
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3/13/2006 12:31:38 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Hi, Charlie.
"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
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Yes, I do remember those words, I still don't see any adds here for the
Antec, but I'm getting hungrier these days and I hope to dig one up.
Although I am extremely happy with my current case, (Levicom series 69) The
NorthQ PS comes with very high recommendations, but all I can say is that it
has left me 'cold', and somewhat disappointed. It is probably very, very
good as an economy product, but it is not a 'heavy duty' thing.
True, cable length is extremely important. Myself, I was always partial to
PCP&C, without turning this into an advertisement, would you put the
Seasonic in that league? Because, I believe that is what I am going to need.
(something in that league!)
Precisely! All my fans are 120mm (PSU & 2x Case fans). The case fans are
plastic but what's in the PSU I don't know. It comes with a whining metallic
resonance. Some time ago, one evening I had a big fat moth looking for a
short-cut going through that way, I don't know if that killed the bearings,
but since then occasionally, there's a ticking, banging noise that can last
from 10 min. to an hour. It then goes away for maybe several days, but
returns with a vengence.
But I am having the greatest trouble interpreting the concept of airflow,
when adding case fans. Diagrams of airflow always picture an 'S-curve' in a
case with the PSU. This lay-out has air entering from all directions (front
and back) through the openings there. Adding case-fans has to disturb (even
destroy?) that curve. But it's nearly impossible to know what kind of impact
the additions will have in your specific situation. You add a fan and the
only result could be that you are moving the hot spot around inside the
case? There's a mission for Tom's Hardware Guide, perhaps?
My own philosophy on this issue is that if you add fan(s) you would have to
have a PSU fan that can accommodate the extra flow of air entering the case
to have it moved out again. So, ideally - you would want a PSU with at least
two powerfull fans that can be switched on and off - most ideally, having it
controlled by the environmental functions on many modern boards, but where
is such a thing?
Some airplanes have double propellers in close proximity that work by
building a vacuum between them (I think) that concept should give the plane
added power in lifting heavy loads, i.e. move more air more easily? I wonder
why the cooling industry hasn't come up with anything in that department?
Particularly, since few cases can accomodate anything bigger than 120mm with
the current sizes and formats.
As always, thank you Charlie.
Tony. . .
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3/13/2006 1:16:09 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
If you want a low-cost case, get something like
<http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=KG-878-WHT&cat=CAS>
or
<http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=KG-989-WHT&cat=CAS>.
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:19:53 -0700, "quantumburnz"
<quantumburnz@hotmail.com> wrote:
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3/13/2006 3:39:29 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
But with a house fan blowing into it he should have more airflow on all
parts of his computer than he would ever get with a couple of case fans,
even 120mm
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3/13/2006 3:43:18 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Thank you, Chris. I pretty much arrived on that option just now since the
Seasonic that Charlie mentioned apparently goes by the name 'Arctic Cooling'
here, and I was only able to find assembled systems with those.
Antec, finally - I was able to find, and not very expensive at all, (a
normal case + 30%) but the PS is so close to the cost of the case that it
seems futile to make calculations on potential savings. Antec had a Passive
PS at a price slightly higher than the case that I thought looked
persuasive. It is the 'Phantom 500 PEC. I wonder if that wouldn't be a
suitable companion to the P180.
And - not to debate - I think that PC Power & Cooling used to come with 5
years. (Or, was it even lifetime?)
Tony. . .
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3/13/2006 4:03:16 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Charlie!
It would seem that the Seasonic you mention is marketed here as Arctic
Cooling. I was only able to find those in ready-built systems. Is there any
good reason not to use Antecs own PS?
Surprisingly, I found all Antec's products available here just now, and the
price difference between the recommended PS's was within some 25 - 35%.
There was one - Phantom 500 PEC, a passive unit that I thought looked
dependable, do you suppose that the P180 would think so too?
About the case: I can see what you mean, first impression is something I
might well pass without noticing. A closer look, however, immediately
reveals the unmistakeable mark of the exceptional. But, honestly, can one
skinny person lift it alone?
Tony. . .
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3/13/2006 5:18:07 PM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Most tests I've seen over the years indicate the opposite. Though I guess it
would depend on exact configuration and the speed of air flow that the house
fan provides.
The key is that a well-designed case directs cool, fast moving, air directly
across the CPU heat sink - the place it's needed the most. It's not the
total air movement in the case that matters so much as how much of it gets
to where it needs to be before it's too hot to do its job.
That being said, I've got a strong suspicion that we've got a bad marriage
between the CPU and the heat sink happening here. There's no way it should
be running this hot when not overclocked if it's getting adequate cooling.
I'd start by pulling the heat sink, cleaning all the old gunk off carefully
(those alcohol wipes they use for injections are perfect for this), and then
using fresh, premium silver-based, gunk, and a top notch after market
heatsink and fan combination.
--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64
John Barnes wrote:
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3/14/2006 4:19:26 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
In this case he achieved a 5 degree reduction. Here is the Intel
instruction page for installing the CPU which you can use after following
Charlie's cleaning instructions.
http://support.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/CS-007989.htm
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3/14/2006 5:34:11 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
For the record, what was your solution as an aid to others with the same
problem.
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3/14/2006 6:27:37 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Thanks for all your help guys! I didn't have a single crash last night.
Chris
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3/14/2006 9:21:54 AM Re: nVidia Drivers |
Well, my temporary solution was to lower the temperature of the CPU by removing
the power supply from the case and setting it on top of the case so it doesn't
block part of the CPU fan. I realize this isn't a long term solution, but I
need to decide what I want to do in terms of buying a new CPU fan, case, power
supply or all of the above. Hope this helps anyone else who's having the same
problem.
SpeedFan was a really helpful program in diagnosing temperatures:
http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php
Chris
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