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Server 2003 Blue Screen at Logon

RickClap posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:23 PM

I have a Dell 700 Server running Windows 2003 SP1 and acting as a domain
control on the other side of the world.  The server works fine unless you
attempt to logon remotely (RPD) or locally.  If you do it crashes and creates
a memory.dmp file.  When you attempt to logon in again you get the crash
message.

System Failure: Stop Error
0x00000008 (0xc0000005, 0x809413c4, 0xf29098dc, 0x00000000)

No module or process is shown.  The system doesn't have symbols loaded so
the crash analyser I have doesn't help.

The right thing to do is contact MS to get assistance.  My manager won't let
me use one of our MS incidents because then she has to explain to her
management why she did it.  (Big Company BS)  :-(

So I've spend many hours trying to solve this remotely without help.

The server is up and running just fine.  I can look at the event logs.  I
can RCMD into the system so I have command line access.  I also can remotely
mount drives and the registry.  I can also access the Dell Server Assistant
and don't see any hardware errors.  No drive problems or memory issues are
being reported.

So far nothing I've looked at has given me a clue.

As to what has been done to the box....

I'm not positive since SMS rolls out a number of patches and software
changes.  I know that it has the most current version of Dell's firmware and
drivers.  those were installed weeks ago and the system worked afterwards.
This same software has been installed on 7 other servers and haven't caused a
problem.

I did contact Dell and they have no known issues with the firmware or driver
updates.

Looking at the MS Patch log it looks like it's been missed for a number of
patches.  It may have had some of the new patches and missed some of the
older ones.  Maybe one needed an old patch and had issues because it was
missing.  Just a thought of course.

Does it have a good backup?  Maybe but since I can't log in I can't check.
Many of these servers have issues with the backup software because of a
change made by another admin.  He's been fixing them but he's has a lot of
work to do since we have so many servers around the world.

So do you have any suggestions on how I can determine the issue and get this
rsolved over the network?

Any suggestions would be great.

Thanks
Rick Clapp (former SNA MVP)
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Server 2003 Blue Screen at Logon

Dave Patrick posted on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:58 PM

Maybe this one helps.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/945658/en-us



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You should really be on SP2 by now. Also, are you using the RDP 6client?

Thee Chicago Wolf posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:49 AM

You should really be on SP2 by now. Also, are you using the RDP 6
client?

- Thee Chicago Wolf
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SP2 is currently being tested with our main application.

RickClap posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:50 AM

SP2 is currently being tested with our main application.  It should get
rolled out in the next few months.

I am using RDP6 on my desktop.

Rick
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RDP 6.

Thee Chicago Wolf posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:22 AM

RDP 6.1 is being integrated into the forthcoming XP SP3 so you have
about 4+ weeks before you get to use it. It is amazing fast. Hopefully
Redmond finalizes the RDC 6.1 by the end of this Month to support
Server 2003 SP2.

Couple things of note regarding Server 2003 SP2. It is HIGHLY
recommended that you have the latest NIC driver installed before or
immediately after installing. Is the problematic Server already using
current NIC drivers?

Take a peek at some of these KB article as they might be things to try
or lead to a resolution:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947773
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946056

And some of these related article:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?mode=r&query=0x00000008&catalog=LCID%3D1033&1033comm=1&spid=3198

- Thee Chicago Wolf
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This happens even if the staff attempts to logon locally.

RickClap posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:22 PM

This happens even if the staff attempts to logon locally.  So I don't think
it's and RDP issue.  The Stop Code is 0x00000008 not 0x0000007f.  It crashes
at the same point so it doesn't look like a memory or processor issues.  If I
login I get the Pop up with the last crash information.  Once I enter a
description and click on OK then it crashes within a 2 seconds.  I wish I
could get an idea of what module crashed or what it's attempting to do at
this point.  The I could have a direction to troubleshoot.  The next thing
I'm going to do is dump a directory list of the exe's and DLL's from this
server and another simlar server and see if I can spot some differences.
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Yes, these niggling little crashes are a pain to diagnose some times.

Thee Chicago Wolf posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:09 PM

Yes, these niggling little crashes are a pain to diagnose some times.
Anything of interest in the event viewer?

- Thee Chicago Wolf
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I'm getting old and my eyes are failing me!

RickClap posted on Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:27 PM

I am getting old and my eyes are failing me!  :-(

Here is the correct error codes...

0x0000008e (0xc0000005, 0x809413c4, 0xf364c8dc, 0x00000000)
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Ok, that helps a bit more.

Thee Chicago Wolf posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 10:18 AM

Ok, that helps a bit more. Is this by chance a dual-core or quad core
set up of some kind? I found a couple KB articles that are explore
0x0000008e 0xc0000005 related crashes and the problem seems to be in
the ntkrnl file set or the win32k.sys file.
Have a look:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/840216
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885450
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947479
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939001
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907966

I would recommend getting the current ntkrnl set from this KB and
giving it a shot first: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944984

This update wouldn't hurt either:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936357

- Thee Chicago Wolf
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Hi Rick I would suggest either using the following symbol path(

MrHus posted on Friday, February 22, 2008 2:46 PM

Hi Rick
I would suggest either using the following symbol path(Microsoft Symbol
Server) for dump analysis or upload it and submit here a link to analyze. It
would show us the exact image module that causes BSOD and narrows the issue.

.sympath SRV*f:\localsymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols

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